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Christian Dating in a Godless World – DI Radio Show and Podcast

May 30, 2017 by  
Filed under Dating, DI Radio, Resources Edition, Show Notes

Description: What is the best way to approach dating through a Catholic perspective? Dan and Melissa speak with author, Father Thomas Morrow Thomas Morrowabout his book Christian Dating in a Godless World to gain insight.

Topics/Questions covered in the show:

  • Why should we listen to a priest give dating advice?
  • What is the difference between dating and courtship?
  • Is it acceptable to date just for fun?
  • What is “friendship dating”?
  • Is there such a thing as a single vocation or is the single state a transitional one?
  • How much effort does one need to put forth to find a spouse?
  • Is it a good idea to use a Catholic internet dating service to meet people?
  • What are some resources for parishes to help minister to singles looking to get married?Christian Dating in a Godless World
  • Why is chastity before marriage important?

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  • Larry

    I listened to the podcast one more time. There are just so many points where Fr. Morrow’s suggestions simply don’t match my own experiences. Perhaps I will write to him.
    At multiple points in the interview, you mention questions and discussion “online” somewhere. Where is that, please? Evidently it’s not here on this page?

  • LizEst

    Thank you, Mary Alice. We invite you to read our FAQ (Frequently Asked Questions) here, especially question 4 and its subquestions: http://www.spiritualdirection.com/frequently-asked-questions

  • Larry

    SIngles who write as I do often get suggestions about things we can “fix” about ourselves. We should move to a different area, buy new clothes, improve our attitudes, and on and on.

    A local mommy-blogger wrote to me “trust me, if you are a good Catholic man with good hygiene and social skills, and a job helps, you will find a woman! I cannot tell you how many middle aged women are desiring a Catholic husband!” The curious can google this quote back to its source.

    I live in the Diocese of Phoenix, which is known for its growth and vibrancy and etc. However, the annual report of a nearby parish of over 3000 families, said that they had only 11 weddings last year. Less than one a month. This is a survival-of-the-Church crisis!

    I know you offer your thoughts with good intentions. Fr. Morrow is obviously also sincere and wanting to help. But none of you truly understand what the single Catholic life has become in the last 1 or 2 generations. I’m sure that single women that attend my parish, but there is No Way for me to identify or meet them.

    • LizEst

      Perhaps the Holy Spirit is calling you to begin such a ministry!

      • Larry

        Why was the comment that I just replied to, deleted? There was nothing wrong with it.

        To LizEst: Your idea is often proposed too. “Go start your own ‘ministry’.”

        I think I would actively resist anything called a “singles ministry” which isolates the single folks away from everyone else. Firstly, I know of no successful examples of this. Secondly, the needs are simply too diverse. Some would want bible study. Others, social activities only. And others only want a spouse ASAP. And you’d have all ages from early twenties to sixties or older.

        So “no” to singles ministry, or any other isolated group. I don’t know who used to run the “socials” or “mixers” that every parish used to have. All-ages functions that were open to all, which fostered the “social network” that helped singles to meet, among many other useful functions.

        • LizEst

          Larry – For the answer to your first question, the author’s DISQUS name was a mild expletive, which we don’t tolerate (if you doubt it is a mild expletive, please do some research). We invite you to read our FAQ (Frequently Asked Questions) here, particularly question number 4 and its subquestions: http://www.spiritualdirection.com/frequently-asked-questions

          Second – I didn’t say “Go start your own ‘ministry’.” I was simply thinking out loud that maybe the Holy Spirit was calling you to do so. If not, then don’t worry about it. Do you have a spiritual director? If so, take this issue to your director. If not, find a director or at least talk to your parish priest about it. Do you really want to meet others? Then, you have to take some responsibility for that. There’s an old joke about the pastor who prayed to God for a financial windfall to fix up his rundown parish. He prayed and prayed. Finally, he said to the Lord, “I don’t get it, I’ve prayed and prayed. I’ve been faithful and trusting. Why won’t you help me and help your people?” To that, God responded, “Would you buy a lottery ticket, already?!”

      • Larry

        Also, LizEst, can you tell me where the online “question area” is that Mr. Burke mentioned a few times during the podcast? Is there a separate discussion area that I’m not aware of?

        • LizEst

          Also, Larry, we don’t have a particular “question area” on our site. The questions Dan mentions were received online from people like yourself sending in questions to Questions@myavila.com Also, Dan does talk about a question board on Facebook, so this, no doubt, was a show he and Melissa recorded on Facebook. That’s not the norm for these shows … at least not now. I don’t know if it will be in the future. Hope this helps.

        • LizEst

          Also, Larry, we don’t have a particular “question area” on our site. The questions Dan mentions were received online from people like yourself sending in questions to Questions@myavila.com Also, Dan does talk about a question board on Facebook, so this, no doubt, was a show he and Melissa recorded on Facebook. That’s not the norm for these shows … at least not now. I don’t know if it will be in the future. Hope this helps.

          • Larry

            I see, thank you.

          • LizEst

            You’re welcome, Larry. God bless you abundantly.

  • LizEst

    The name was a mild expletive. We don’t tolerate expletives on site, even mild ones.

    Our parish priests see tons of folks for spiritual direction … and they are extremely busy. They make time for folks who are serious about direction. Oftentimes, directors will want to see if a potential directee is serious about direction. They give them something to do. Did you go back in a few weeks? If you didn’t, then, by your actions or inaction, you communicated to that particular priest that you were not serious about direction.

    I differ on this not being a spiritual issue. Everything about your life touches the spiritual realm. If God calls you to the married state, then it is worth looking into this from a spiritual standpoint (just like those considering the priesthood or religious life need to talk about that with a spiritual director). If this is causing you psychological angst, then there are good Catholic therapists here: http://www.catholictherapists.com/

    • Larry

      The priests never knew that I was there, I never got past the office staff. I guarantee that priests in my area with 3000 or 4000 families per parish, do not do any counseling or direction.

      I’m sorry if you have interpreted my comments as psychological angst. They really are just observations about the state of Catholic life today. I sent Fr. Morrow a pointer to this discussion. Perhaps he’ll reply someday.

      And as for catholictherapists… I attended a presentation given by one of their members. When I approached her afterwards, looking for Catholic advice about dealing with depression on behalf of a relative, she told me about manipulating “pressure points” behind the eyes. Needless to say, I looked for better advice from other non-Catholic sources.

      • LizEst

        Larry — Seeing people and counseling them is part of the job of being a priest, of shepherding folks. Were I you, I would check with a priest after Mass. Don’t let the “office staff” be the barrier.

        I hope Fr. Morrow will answer you.

        That’s a very odd comment about catholictherapists. You should write to the founder, Allison Ricciardi. I’m sure she would be interested in hearing about that.

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