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Transitioning to a Deeper Union with God – DI Radio Show and Podcast

Description: What happens to a holy soul during the “dark night”? Today, Dan, Melissa and Dr. Anthony Lilles explore the meaning of the “dark night of the soul” and St. Thérèse's experience transitioning to a deeper union with Transitioning to a Deeper Union with GodGod.

 Topics/Questions covered in the show:

  • How is St. Thérèse's description of “the dark night of the soul” similar to that of St. John of the Cross?
  • What are the stages of the spiritual life? What stage is St. Therese experiencing?
  • We must pass through this “dark night” in order to progress from one stage to the next.
  • St. Thérèse has complete trust in God even though she cannot sense His presence in her life at this point.
  • Many lose faith or become discouraged during this stage, but St. Thérèse is committed to her Lord. She never loses trust in Him.
  • How can we have peace while in this transition stage?
  • How can we make progress spiritually while in this transition stage?

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The Divine Intimacy Radio Show is a haven of rest and wellspring of spiritual life for those seeking intimacy with God and the enlightened path of Catholic mystical and ascetical wisdom.

Every week, Dan Burke and Melissa Elson explore topics related to the interior life and Catholic teaching, including prayer, spiritual direction, meditation, contemplation, and holiness.

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About Dan Burke

Dan is the President of the Avila Foundation, the parent organization of, the Avila Institute for Spiritual Formation, Divine Intimacy Radio and Divine Intimacy Radio - Resources Edition, Into the Deep Parish Programs, the Apostoli Viae (Apostles of the Way) Community, and the FireLight Student Leadership Formation Program, author of the award-winning book, Navigating the Interior Life - Spiritual Direction and the Journey to God, Finding God Through Meditation-St. Peter of Alcantara, 30 Days with Teresa of Avila, Into the Deep, Living the Mystery of Merciful Love: 30 Days with Thérèse of Lisieux, and his newest book The Contemplative Rosary with St. John Paul II and St. Teresa of Avila. Beyond his "contagious" love for Jesus and His Church, he is a grateful husband and father of four, the Executive Director of and writer for EWTN's National Catholic Register, a regular co-host on Register Radio, a writer and speaker who provides online spiritual formation and travels to share his conversion story and the great riches that the Church provides us through authentic Catholic spirituality. Dan has been featured on EWTN's Journey Home program and numerous radio programs.

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  • Jeanette

    The key seems to be to trust God completely and to surrender yourself completely to God in the manner and timing of how He wants to take you closer into His Divine Intimacy. Thank you for your wonderful interaction between each other. It’s a delight to hear your insights into what happens to a soul during the dark night.

  • Valerie Saldanha

    I just listened to this podcast and thank you for the valuable insights that all three of you shared. God is leading me somewhere and He is using your website with its postings, podcasts and the pilgrimage to come. With best wishes from India.

    • LizEst

      Thank you for letting us know God is using our site to lead you. We are happy to cooperate with His grace and glad you are doing so as well! Best wishes, and continued Easter blessings to you!

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